and of course america is involved with a warfare. >> host: did the fbi watch stokely carmichael? >> guest: absolutely. very famously they have a counterintelligence program that has initially been started in the 1950s and is supposed to be anti-communist. and it quickly becomes something that is used to provide surveillance over civil rights activist and pro-democracy activists and black power revolutionaries and carmichael has an extensive fbi file. the state department, the united states intelligence services, the fbi is watching them all the time, especially for the black power speech of june of 1966. he writes in his own biography how federal agents are drafting him, cars are constantly behind him. so it's something that takes its toll and he's going to be under surveillance. and that is coming directly from lyndon johnson and his special assistant. so the surveillance is very extensive. and then he famously takes a five month world tour and he travels to cuba and london and vietnam. he's in our area. and then he meets up with them throughout. and so the very difficult proces